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June 16, 2004
POLITICS: You Will Write What I Tell You To Write
Is there any blogger out there who makes more demands of other bloggers than Mark Kleiman? I should preface this by saying that I generally don't get into flame wars and the like with other bloggers; life's too short, and I generally prefer just to bicker with a particular post and leave it at that (although the disappearance of Hesiod from the blogosphere does warm my heart). But Kleiman's tactics and rhetoric have really gotten under my skin one time too many. Kleiman's beloved rhetorical hobbyhorse is branding as many people on the Right as he can - other bloggers as well as pundits and elected officials - as bigots, liars, and crooks, often by association. He's probably the single blogger most obsessed with a tactic we all use sometimes - and properly so, in some circumstances - but should be extremely cautious about overusing, especially against fellow amateur pundits who don't have the time to cover every issue under the sun: demanding that people on the other side of the spectrum denounce this person or that activity or the other statement. And, of course, his hair-trigger overreactions even on subjects about which he knows little or nothing often winds up forcing him to back down from things he's written. It would, of course, be unfair of me to make such sweeping assertions about Kleiman's blog without some examples. This is hardly exhaustive; we'll go in reverse chronological order here: June 13, 2004
Sometimes silence conveys more information than speech. Indeed, as Leo Strauss never tired of reminding his readers, sometimes silence is intended to convey information about which speech would be inconvenient, or information too important to be written or spoken. This may be one of those cases. June 4, 2004
Rather than ask himself whether Democrats would tear into a billionaire who was financing over-the-top attack ads on their president (Richard Mellon Scaife, anyone?), Kleiman latches on to a legitimately anti-Semitic Tony Blankley column in the Washington Times, but then uses it as a club to smear the rest of the Right while demanding that we all snap to attention; after Pejman weighed in, Kleiman wrote, "I'm still waiting for a non-Jewish conservative to agree, or a hint of complaint from the RNC or its allies"; after Drezner did the same, he insisted, "Drezner also doubts that Blankley's words reflect discredit on the other Republican Soros-bashers. I'm with Kevin Drum on this one: yes they do, unless the other Republican Soros-bashers distance themselves from their colleague." Frankly, I doubt that I've ever read a Tony Blankley column in my life, but there you have it: I'm a bigot because I didn't denounce it the way Mark Kleiman demands. And if you've criticized Soros, even if you've never read anything Blankley has ever written, so are you. May 20, 2004 May 06, 2004 April 28, 2004 April 15, 2004
That charge was repeated both in the mass media and by many bloggers. Everyone who mentioned that charge now has an obligation to state clearly that it was false: not in an update to a now-dead post, but in a story or post as prominent as the one that carried the original charge. April 06, 2004 April 03, 2004
Kos has now, it seems to me, put himself in the same category. And he needs to think, quickly and accurately, about whether to take himself out of it, or remain there more or less permanently. Until and unless Kos comes to his senses, recognizes what he said, and takes it back with a full and unreserved apology, it seems to me that no office-seeker in his right mind can continue to advertise on his blog. As soon as someone on the Left criticized Kos, Kleiman reverts to form ("The contrast with the right's silence about Coulter and Bunning is pretty stark, wouldn't you say?"), although he quickly has to retract both that and his "Fredo, you're nothing to me now" speech to Kos. March 31, 2004
1. Say that they approve of the attack, and that Clarke's sexual orientation is a legitimate reason to doubt his veracity or his acuity. 2. Say that they don't think that the attack is really relevant, but that any tactic is legitimate if it weakens a critic of the President. 3. Claim that Wolf Blitzer was making it up, and explain why he would. 4. Denounce the attack in strong terms. Ï can't really see a fifth option. This is truly the case where silence gives consent. Anyone who has been attacking Clarke personally has been, in effect, playing on the White House team, and has an ethical obligaton to call the foul. I actually fell for the trap and criticized this, although I never did see any evidence that "gay-baiting" was coming from anyone but a couple of left-wing sources who took CNN's later retraction as evidence that what was retracted must have been true. January 16, 2004 December 27, 2003 December 24, 2003 November 15, 2003 October 14, 2003
October 06, 2003 September 29, 2003 July 13, 2003
March 20, 2003
March 18, 2003 Kleiman on Glenn Reynolds and Little Green Footballs:
* * * * * Again, I don't think it's necessarily improper to argue from silences or pose questions to the other side; I've done it myself, and plenty of others have as well. But the constant barrage of "respond to this!" and "if they don't denounce that it proves they're a bunch of bigots!," combined with Kleiman's accusatory tone and willingness to leap to the worst possible conclusions on the thinnest possible evidence, makes his site a serious chore to read. Which is a shame; he's obviously a smart guy, and he sometimes has interesting things to say that don't fit with liberal orthodoxy, like his recent post touting nuclear energy. He just goes to this particular well way, way too often. Comments
He sounds like a spoiled child..."Mommy, Mommy, Mommy, Mommy! Look what I can do!" Posted by: mhking at June 16, 2004 09:34 AMHe sounds like a spoiled child..."Mommy, Mommy, Mommy, Mommy! Look what I can do!" Posted by: mhking at June 16, 2004 09:45 AMCriticizing journalists and mass-media outlets, including criticizing them for ignoring important stories, is one of the legitimate functions of blogging. Glenn Reynolds, for example, makes a specialty of it. Blogging is now an important element of journalism. Therefore, it seems to me that criticizing other bloggers for ignoring important stories is a legitimate form of blogging. And I stand by my assertion that any decent journalist, whether professional or amateur, who repeats a charge that later turns out to be false has an absolute obligation to inform his readers of its falsity, both out of respect for them and out of respect for the victim of the false charge. The only "flaming" I see is in the post above. Note that the Crank's attempt to sow ill will between me and Glenn Reynolds, and between me and Eugene Volokh, has failed. In this case my criticism was not of them, as I made clear, but of George Walker Bush, and I was using the failure of his usual friends to defend him as evidence that his actions were indefensible. As I noted, Glenn has been perfectly clear on the torture issue: he's against it. And he recently linked approvingly to one of my posts on the subject, and added a still stronger version of the argument. My point stands: No one, inlcuding his usual friends, seems willing to defend Mr. Bush's words and actions concerning torture. Posted by: Mark Kleiman at June 16, 2004 01:10 PMHmm. Seems the President has said that torture isn't US policy, and those that have engaged in it will be punished. Which part of that would you care to have 'defended'? And as Mr Kleiman, you appear to be unhappy with this position, exactly what sort of torture are you advocating? Posted by: Wind Rider at June 16, 2004 01:45 PMMy favorite is this: "Kleiman on Glenn Reynolds discussing what would happen if the U.S. and Israel supported anti-EU terrorists the way the EU supports Arafat: "I'm hoping that some of his warblogger friends will take this occasion to distance themselves from what seems to be a truly evil idea." And of course he is right, it would be truly evil to support anti-EU terrorists the way that the EU supposts anti-Israel terrorists. And Reynolds acknowledges that because he is arguing AGAINST THE SUPPORT OF ARAFAT. Sheesh. And other than those posts I really like his blog. Posted by: Sebastian Holsclaw at June 16, 2004 03:04 PM"Note that the Crank's attempt to sow ill will between me and Glenn Reynolds, and between me and Eugene Volokh, has failed." I don't know where the charge of trying to sow ill will comes from, or how it can be adjudged a failure. I doubt Reynolds will ever even see this post. Posted by: The Crank at June 16, 2004 03:52 PMThe charge of attempting to sow ill will comes from As to Wind Rider, I suggest that he read the memos, and parse the President's comments carefully. The memos argue that lots of things that look like torture from the outside, and feel like torture to the victim, aren't really "torture" legally. And they claim that anything the President orders in his capacity as Commander-in-Chief is automatically lawful. Confronted with this, the President said that it wasn't our policy to do anything unlawful. Posted by: Mark Kleiman at June 16, 2004 09:59 PMNot criticizing them?! That's like saying that Benson was not criticizing Quayle, he was just pointing out that Quayle lacked some of the qualities of JFK. If you are going to go after someone, at least have the backbone to admit it. Posted by: WD at June 17, 2004 08:52 AMThere are, of course, a few more examples here than just the torture item. Actually, it was the Blankley thing that pushed me to write this post. Posted by: The Crank at June 17, 2004 09:06 AMThis seems like piling on, since Mr. Kleiman eventually admitted that his post about the Newt Gingrich "Lee wins at Gettysburg" book was a waste of time, but why did Winston Churchill hate America so much? http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=674 In case that link fails, it is to a 1930 speculative history article by Winston Churchill titled (and you need to follow the backspin) "IF LEE HAD NOT WON THE BATTLE OF GETTYSBURG"." His gist - Lee wins at Gettysburg; to secure British support, Lee frees the slaves, and Britain imposes a peace on both sides, which remain armed and distrustful. Around 1900, however, the Brits negotiate an Alliance of English Speaking Peoples which (given the military might in North America) is too great a power to be challenged. Hence, no WWI, and no Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. One can only guess, from a 1930 perspective, that WWII would also have been avoided. On the main point, I'll accept that criticizing media coverage is fair game, especially on buried stories like UNSCAM. From that it might follow that criticizing other bloggers for their story selection is appropriate, although I personally don't have as many man-hours in the day as the NY Times, and don't expect the inexhaustible Glenn Reynolds does either. However, the notion that the torture story is in some way undercovered is absurd. If Mr. Kleiman is concerned that some poor sap is unaware of this story because his only news source is Glenn R, well, that's ridiculous. Or, if he is troubled that conservatives don't criticize Bush at every opportunity, well, I see plenty of liberals who don't criticize Kerry at every opportunity. This is a target rich environment on both sides. Posted by: Tom Maguire at June 17, 2004 10:23 AM****And I stand by my assertion that any decent journalist, whether professional or amateur, who repeats a charge that later turns out to be false has an absolute obligation to inform his readers of its falsity, both out of respect for them and out of respect for the victim of the false charge.*** Did you ever correct the incorrect story about Disney "censoring" Michael Moore's movie, when his own agent later admitted that he knew last year they wouldn't distribute it? Last I saw, you were still requesting people to contact Disney & complain. You were duped. FWIW, Mark Kleiman seems to have committed an egregious breach of Godwin's Law in a post today. Commenting on the Michael Barone piece about Bush, Lincoln, McClellan, and changing horses in midstream, Kleiman says this:
One problem with the analogy is that Bush has already invaded Russia - the Dem heroes who might have spoken up prior to the war resolution in Oct 2002 were sadly lacking (Oh, but there was an election frightening them). Most oddly, however, Mr. Kleiman took the position with Newt Gingrich's speculative fiction that imagination = advocacy. Why is Kleiman fantasizing about a (Hitler free) German rule over Europe? Posted by: Tom Maguire at June 17, 2004 10:22 PMWell, if you follow that analogy to its logical conclusion, a victory for the Kerry campaign is equivalent to a Nazi conquest of Europe! That's the funny thing about analogies . . . Posted by: The Crank at June 17, 2004 10:34 PMThe Clarke/gay thing was a really neat trick to show a "smear" that absolutely no one was pushing, and now all you people on the right better condemn it! Amazing... There was also a whisper campaign against Nader in 2000, where was the left on that? Posted by: HH at June 18, 2004 01:21 AMPost a comment
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